Agenda ------ (1) Paul Hodgson Untagged Events: LEP 2 data vs. PHOJET (2) Olaf Krasel Muon Tagged Charm (3) Andreea Taune Electron Tagged Charm (4) Gerrit Prange Double Tagged Events - a first look (5) Mark Lehto Jets in Single Tagged Events (6) Alex Finch Report from LEP-Wide Group (7) Armin Boehrer A first look at Lambda_c (8) Ngac An Bang Particle fractions in gamma gamma (9 = AOB) Everyone What will be submitted to conferences? Especially: DIS2000 (May) /PHOTON2000 (August) Armin Boehrer + Alex Finch Minutes ------- (1) Paul showed several plots which will form part of an Aleph note in the near future. This is an update to an earlier note by A.Finch comparing PHOJET and Aleph untagged gamma gamma data. As before the overall comparison is very good, but detailed comparison in individual detectors show up problems which appear to be related to detector simulation problems. Particular problems are seen in LCAL and SiCAL. (2) Olaf showed an essentially final result of using muon tagging to measure the charm cross section. The final result is highly dependant on the choice of Monte Carlo program (PYTHIA or PHOJET) to estimate the charm and non-charm muon selection efficiencies. However by using a chi-squared test to choose the best combination of models (PYTHIA for charm, PHOJET for non charm) Olaf obtains a measurement of the cross section which is consistent with the recent result from L3. Both are on the high side compared to theory. (3) Andreea presented for the first time her analysis using electron tagging to measure the charm cross section. She showed that details of such things as the number of VDET hits on a track and the longitudinal shower profile are not well modelled by the Monte Carlo. Putting that worry to one side for now she obtains a cross section following the same procedure as Olaf which is consistent with his result. (4) Gerrit showed his analysis of events with two tagged electrons, using Sical and/or LCAL for the tagging. The data is compared to PHOJET and PHOT02, where the QPM u+d quark component only was simulated. Neither model provides a good description of the data. He has looked into using a kinematical fit to improve the energy resolution on the final state hadronic mass. (5) Mark continues to work with Bjorn Poetter to develop JETvip into a useful program that can predict the jet cross sections in tagged events. It had been hoped that Bjoern would be able to attend but unfortunately this was not possible. We hope to arrange a meeting in the near future. (6) Alex reported that the LEP-Wide group continues to consider a common problem in both the Total cross section and Structure function measurements, namely the choice of unfolding program. We have had talks from the authors of the major programs in use, and hope that Klaus or Glen will be able to give us a talk about Aleph's 2-dimensional method soon. He also reminded everyone that the author of PHOJET (Ralph Engel) will be visiting Lancaster during February and repeated the hope that this would lead to a new improved PHOJET being released (!) (7) Armin showed evidence of Lambda_c production in gamma gamma events in Aleph. No measurement of this has been published. (8) Bang showed a study of using dE/dx to identify pi/K/p fractions in the data. He showed disturbingly large differences between the data and the simulations, and was encouraged to discuss these with other Aleph experts who may shed some light on them. (9) AOB It was agreed that Olaf's work could be ready for a preliminary presentation at the Winter conferences. He is encouraged to write a Conference Note AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. A likely date for a Thursday meeting presentation is 10th March. Alex Finch